{"id":1725,"date":"2023-11-24T08:49:58","date_gmt":"2023-11-24T08:49:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/?p=1725"},"modified":"2024-10-13T08:50:48","modified_gmt":"2024-10-13T08:50:48","slug":"bonds-over-baghdad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/?p=1725","title":{"rendered":"Bonds Over Baghdad"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As far as financial instruments go \u2026 bonds are boring.&nbsp; And confusing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maybe that is the point.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Think about it \u2014 rate v. yield v. total return.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wat.&nbsp; <em>Yahn<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, rate = interest, or the money the bond is supposed to make.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yield = a question, or does interest compound?&nbsp; If so, what is the actual interest?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wat?&nbsp; <em>Yahn<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(un)Simply put, the yield is the amount of interest earned on the bond at the time of purchase.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Coupla different types of \u201cyield.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNominal yield\u201d (or \u201ccoupon\u201d) = rate of interest stated on the bond itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cCurrent yield\u201d = rate of interest adjusted by the purchase price.&nbsp;<br>Example?&nbsp; Buy a $1000 bond for $1100, that pays 7-percent interest and matures in five years, but is callable (i.e., bond issuer can demand return of the bond by paying for it) in two.&nbsp; The price of the bond is $1100 bucks, with the expectation that the buyer will earn $70 every year of the five years of the bond term, or a <em>current yield<\/em> of 6.36 percent, from the original $1100 purchase.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">$70 \u00f7 $1100 = 0.0636, or 6.36 percent (0.0636 x 100) is the current yield.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The math is mathing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyhoo, another type of \u201cyield\u201d is \u201cyield to maturity,\u201d or the value earned on the investment if the bond is held for the entire term, receiving only the interest payments ($350) for five years and the face value of the bond ($1000) at the end of the five years, resulting in a <em>yield to maturity<\/em> rate of \u2026 math ain\u2019t mathing rn, sooooo \u2026 whatevs.  The book makes it make sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AND and \u2026 here\u2019s another little wrinkle \u2026 the more frequently interest compounds = the more $###<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Example:\u00a0 Figure 3-6, from the book:<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1727\" style=\"width: NaNpx;\" src=\"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table-1.pdf\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"146\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=640%2C146&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1732\" style=\"width:838px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=1024%2C233&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=300%2C68&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=768%2C175&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=1536%2C350&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=2048%2C466&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?resize=600%2C137&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/moneyaintmath.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Bond-table.png?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not that I actually understand but kinda but sorta not really but a little bit\u2014PITCHAS!!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, looks like considerations to be given when buying a bond is (1) how much interest is the bond expected to earn, and (2) does the interest compound, and (3) if so, how frequently?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyhoo, the total return = income +\/- changes in principal (cash coughed up in the first) \u2026 which is the only term\/$### that actually matters.\u00a0 What you get for what you gave \u2026 total return on investment.\u00a0 <br>Yah, that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Whatevs.\u00a0 Bonds are confusing and boring and necessary for a well-stocked portfolio so find some that work and then \u2026 hold on and see what they do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If interest rates fall, then the value of the bond goes \u2191.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If interest rate rise, then the value of the bond goes \u2193.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Waitwat?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeh \u2026 the way it is explained in the book?&nbsp; Think of a seesaw with interest rates at one end and bond prices on the other \u2026 when one side rises, the other side falls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Say you spend\/invest $10,000 to buy a bond with a face value of $10,000 at an interest rate of 6 percent and a 30-year maturity.&nbsp; So, if you hold onto the bond for the full term (i.e., 30 years), you\u2019ll get $600 a year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Two years later, interest rates rise by 2 percent.&nbsp; Now, you still get 6 percent every year, but someone else buying the same bond can spend\/invest $10,000 and get an interest rate of 8 percent, or $800 every year.&nbsp; Oops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So now, your $10,000 bond purchased @6% is not worth the same $10,000 purchased @8%, and if you needed to sell your $10,000 investment, nobody would buy it at face value (\u00e1 la $10,000).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gotta drop the price.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So someone would be willing to buy your $10,000 at the lower interest rate of 6 percent, rather than spend that selfsame $10,000 and get an 8 percent rate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gotta take a $2500 hit on the selling price \u2026<br>                \u2026 according to the book p. 100, that $10,000\/6% bond = $7500\/8% bond, <br>                &#8230; both receive $600 year in income.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Call it \u201cinterest rate risk.\u201d&nbsp; All the suck.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">BUT but, if you hold onto that $10,000\/6% bond until maturity, get what you originally paid for, there is no\/minimal hit if don\u2019t sell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AND and, because people with money don\u2019t like to risk their own, a hedge is built into the system to avoid major losses \u2026 see:&nbsp; gold.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gold prices go up with inflation, so if bond value goes down with rising rates, gold acts as a sort of insurance against the loss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not really, but kinda.&nbsp; Like everything else in investing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But hey \u2026 go ahead and invest anyway.&nbsp; NOT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS but try, say hunnert bucks, see how you do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And go from there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gotta start somewhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So \u2026 start.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As far as financial instruments go \u2026 bonds are boring.&nbsp; And confusing. Maybe that is the point.&nbsp; Think about it \u2014 rate v. yield v. total return. Wat.&nbsp; Yahn. Well, rate = interest, or the money the bond is supposed to make. Yield = a question, or does interest compound?&nbsp; If so, what is the &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/?p=1725\" class=\"more-link\">Read the full post &rarr;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8220;Bonds Over Baghdad&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[21,25,36,26,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1725","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nobuy","category-debt-monkeys-the-credit-circus","category-opinions-ahh-holes","category-strategic-spending","category-yehireadthat"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1725","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1725"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1725\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1734,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1725\/revisions\/1734"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1725"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1725"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/moneyaintmath.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1725"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}